Moral Contradictions

Saturday, September 30, 2006

Family values...

"It's vile," said Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach. "It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."

No, this wasn't said about himself, after resigning from Congress Friday because of improper emails with a 16 year old boy, this was in relation to President Clinton.

What happened to the Republicans? Have they no shame? Where did this whole 'we'll restore dignity to the White House and DC' go?

With Rep. Bob Ney's conviction regarding corruption and the whole Jack Abramoff scandal, not to mention Tom Delay's resignation, I was told that sort of behavior was impossible, for these were good Christian men.

Shame on those Christians who claim that Jesus would vote Republican, or for those who cast Democrats out of their churches.

How is this a Christian value?

How is justifying torture a Christian value?

How is lying to the country to justify war a Christian value?

How is corruption a Christian value?

How is ignoring American and International law a Christian value?

And for Virginia and the illegal immigration debate, how is racism a Christian value?

I guess this is what happens when you present yourself as holier-than-thou... anytime you set yourself up higher than humans and closer to God, gravity's humbling mechanicism kicks in.

Update: Just saw that Foley was the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. Nice.


  • Dead on, as always. I think these faux Christians need to be outed for what they are. You've done a great job at this.

    By Blogger Vivian J. Paige, at Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:54:00 PM  

  • I will begin by stating something that will most likely shock a great many conservative Christians. The Republican Party is NOT a religious institution. And, just to be fair, the Democratic Party is NOT an atheist institution.

    That being said, I have been giving a great deal of thought, study, and prayer about some of your recent posts. Your gift of language, has stirred a conciousness within me that has only been simmering until now. The questions you postulate, the examples that you submit, have all served to refocus my attention to some of what I believe are root causes for the decline in spirituality in America and the ascendency of secular humanism into the modern church.

    American Christians, in large measure, have slowly succomed to the philosophy of individualism, and the concept of God helps those who help themselves, and the incessent call to 'Be all that you can be.'

    This inward self-serving focus has confused at least the last two generations of Americans and has led to the corruption of Christ's doctrine to love our neighbor as our self. The attitude of turning the other cheek and killing with kindness has lost its popularity from the pulpit and christian class rooms. These days we are deluged with sermons, books, and lectures full of 'feel good' instructions, and a call to vote Christianity into power. American Christianity today is on the verge of surrender to the Secular Trinity of Me, Myself, and I.

    The thing is that blogs like yours and mine are generally 'themed.' We, by the way that our blogs have been constructed, are mostly able to promote broad areas of discussion, rather than deal with specific issues, such as those issues that would be classified under 'Christian values.' There is a very real need, in my opinion, for a narrower discussion. A discussion more like a real conversation between a group of individuals all concerned with being reintroduced to Biblical Christianity as taught by Jesus. The goal of this group would be to focus on Christ for answers to the many problems that all of society faces, not just christians. For instance, what does it really mean to love our neighbor as we love ourself? What does it really mean to turn the other cheek when we are rebuffed, or to walk the extra mile, or when we are sued and someone wants our tunic to give them our cloak also?

    It seems that Jesus wants us to forget about Me, Myself, and I and instead to be for real servants to everyone else. This was a radical notion in the first century and for sure its radical in today's society.

    Having said all that, I would like to plug a google group that I felt moved to start after having read some of your posts and others of similar nature. is the link. The goal, as I have already stated, is to provide a place for a community of Christians to come together online and actually have a threaded conversation via email or website and offer links to relevant blogposts, to offer specific topics for discussion, and to provide a growing, archived, searchable database of conversations dealing specifically with focusing on Christ and His instructions concerning our unique attitudes.

    The word 'attitude' seems important to me. I do not look to the Words of Jesus to give me specific answers to every question that I face as a Christian, but I can search His Word for the proper attitude of heart and mind that I will need to respond to all of the issues that confront me day to day. Jesus said that the two principals of loving God first and loving our neighbor as our self is the central theme from which all the Law and the Prophets hang. It is these two Biblical principals that all of us can apply to each and every specific issue that we face. I would invite you and your readers to share with me your applications and discernments of these two vital commandments.

    By Blogger Dusty Bogard, at Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:37:00 PM  

  • Nice smear. Of course, the difference between Republicans is that we chase out of public office those who abuse the public trust (Foley, and before him, Dan Crane). Democrats embrace them (Gerry Studds; Barney Frank) and adopt their perversion as part of their agenda.

    By Blogger James Young, at Saturday, September 30, 2006 6:17:00 PM  

  • Oh, and BTW, I think I read somewhere that forgiveness was a Christian value.

    Spare us. You wield your religion like a club against those with whom you disagree as frequently and with every bit as much fervor as you attribute to Christian Conservatives.

    By Blogger James Young, at Saturday, September 30, 2006 6:18:00 PM  

  • You are absolutely right James, I forgive you brother. May God bless you richly.

    By Blogger Dusty Bogard, at Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:07:00 PM  

  • I wonder how many others who read "Christian" blogs find it interesting how quickly discussions like this turn to name calling? This turning to name calling proves to me the need to enclose the word "Christian" within quotation marks. The truth is that we do not know who we vote for any more. Certainly we Christians should not be "one issue" voters, as many are, because we are mixing religion and politics when we do.

    By Blogger Mac McFatter, at Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:44:00 AM  

  • I'd like to thank James for turning this into a Republican versus Democrat issue, once again proving that we're obviously talking past one another. I'd also like to thank Vivian and Dusty for understanding that my post is not a smear but rather an observation of the truth. This post had nothing to do with Democrats in regard to this issue, for their party did not hold themselves up as Christians and preached that they would act as such, only to fail and let the nation down as a whole, not to mention us Christians who do strive to live out what we preach. Do we fail? Yes. We all sin and need forgiveness. However, failing when controlling the reigns of the most powerful nation in the world is a bit different.

    What's that old axiom? If you have a weak argument launch a personal attack?

    I grieve that this sort of behavior is occuring. Do I take pride in writing these posts? What do you think? If you think yes than maybe you should stop reading this blog because you've missed the point.

    Christ called us to be accountable - we should hold each other in the faith accountable to what is taught in the Bible. Similarly we are told that politicans "work for us" - voters must hold them accountable for their actions. If a politicans, such as Rep. Foley, condemns President Clinton for a moral sin only to commit one of the same vein eight years later(actually much more perverse), than we should say something.

    We need politicians who actively act our their faith on both sides of the aisle. However, the catch is when they do, by setting themselves up as moral beacons, they must watch all their actions for everyone is waiting for them to fall.

    Christianity and politics do not mix well at all - one must survey the land and seriously question whether or not they can be true to both God and party, not to mention the people. It's not for the faint of heart or the arrogant - it's for the wise, the ones who we can call a statesman. Unfortunately we seem to be lacking those.

    By Blogger Nathan, at Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:00:00 PM  

  • Nathan & Dusty - let me urge you both not to retreat to the safety of a private group of like-minded individuals, at least not as an alternative to blogging. Your voices are a necessary part of the conversation.

    By Blogger Vivian J. Paige, at Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:08:00 PM  

  • Nathan,

    AMEN to humility! I hate that ANY U.S. Representative is having to learn humility so in the gaze of the public but perhaps better there than not at all.

    So, can we come up with a candidate litmus test for humility? (Maybe we could weed out a few BEFORE they take office!) Can we demand that candidates wash each other's feet regularly throughout their campaigns? And what about washing the feet and binding the wounds of our enemies in our prisons? Maybe ALL of us could do with a bit more of that and with a great deal less nationalistic arrogance.

    I'm only half-teasing here. But must the only cure for hubris be a very public humiliation?

    Nathan, I've told you before, I'll tell you again, you're doing something important here. Keep on bloggin'.

    By Blogger Tom, at Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:27:00 PM  

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